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“Slip To Land” Never Tested (DPE Fail)!

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A recent Instagram poll on “cross-control” again revealed a persistent ignorance of slip/skid aerodynamics among all respondents. I see ignorance in this area continually on flight tests and most applicants are surprised when I tell them we will slip all the way to a landing (“My flight instructor never showed me this!”) The ACS clearly specifies “Slip to Landing” and sets a touchdown accuracy standard as well. (Our Aug. 11th Webinar is on Cross-control). It is bad enough that we never test a crosswind landing (not required) but when we skip a required task, that is an illegal flight test.

Obviously, the minimal FAA standards are getting “increasingly minimal” with the crowded testing schedule. The average PPL evaluation is currently running only 1.3 flight hours. I regularly see 2-3 landing logged and .1 simulated IFR when performing follow-on tests. If we do not test all areas of operation and tasks, the CFIs and schools will not teach these s. The DPE is the gatekeeper and determines the training quality by maintaining the testing quality.

Congratulations Doug Stewart: National Honor!

Doug was very deservedly inducted into the National Flight Instructor Hall of Fame at Airventure; Congratulations 🎉! He also reiterated the declining level of flight proficiency among pilot applicants during an interview on “Oshkosh Live.” Currently, the private pilot evaluation has the highest failure rate of all FAA tests – even exceeding initial CFI. The industry is obviously  failing in its preparation of new pilot candidates – lots of empty promises and “hurry up, minimal standards.” These minimal standards continue right up through initial CFI –  “faster and easier” is the gold standard – providing only 10 hours of real solo time and rote-level educator preparation!

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I think we are all familiar with the problems in the current flight training environment. The solution can only come from improving our new aviation educators. As long as we have “babies teaching babies” there will be a descending spiral of proficiency and professionalism. I am sorry this sounds insulting (we all started there), but there has to be an attitude of humility and curiosity in these new educators with a willingness to learn and grow (this is a student-teacher certification). We need to inject professionalism and experienced mentoring into the educational process.

A “wet FAA temporary” CFI certificate holder is not prepared to teach the next generation of pilots (especially now with PDPIC standards of 10 hours of real solo).

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4 responses to ““Slip To Land” Never Tested (DPE Fail)!”

  1. Ben Avatar
    Ben

    I do my best to teach all of my students that we can slip all the way down into ground effect on landing. I think it should be noted that there will be many times when slipping all the way down is not necessary, sometimes you can simply take that slip out and land the aircraft perfectly fine and right on the designated touchdown mark.

    I wholly agree with Doug in the manner that brand new CFIs are simply not equipped to really teach, I certainly wasn’t and honestly even after instructing for over a year I’m not sure that I am as qualified as I could or should be. I have that same mentality when it comes to the 1500 hour rule and brand new ATP certified FOs. I think the idea of having a gradual step up process from simple four-seater to maybe a twin or a light turbo prop and then gradually working your way to the big jets of the 121 world. In that same mindset I think if you are going to be instructing you need some way of gaining experience prior to sitting down in the cockpit with a student. I’m not sure what that process would be but I think it would certainly help create more knowledgeable flight instructors and better trained students.

  2. […] provide an insipid version of the slip to land. Many times this maneuver is not trained adequately or fully tested as required (to an accurate […]

  3. Charles McDougal Avatar
    Charles McDougal

    Two thoughts: 1) I actually had a. Certain training provider claiming that slips were bad for his airplanes and saying “Charlie likes slips” …. Maybe the other DPEs didn’t test them? 2) A pilot who can’t fly solely by outside references cannot perform a sustained and stable slip. It’s a real tell-tale; after suffering through one lackluster maneuver after another, then comes the slip, totally not working! Then the truth of why the other maneuvers were so bad is revealed.

  4. David St. George Avatar
    David St. George

    You are totally right on this one Charlie. The slip (or lack of it) is a real giveaway!

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